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Re: Hotmail spamfilter


  • From: iRing-RLopen  
  • Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:04:24 +0200

I use different mailboxes for each ring I ringmaster. Some Hotmail. One accont 
is reciving spam so today I activated the spamfilter and set it to put spam in 
the special spamfolder. (You can set Hotmail spamfilter to put spam in 
spamfolder or instantly delete the mail)

I deleted 3 members from the ring. The ringmaster mail-copy's sent to my 
Hotmail mailbox for all 3 was put in the spamfolder.

I have noticed that new sites sometimes are registred twice by WM using 
Hotmail. About 4-5 times in my rings the last 2-3 weeks.  I think, beliving 
there was an error, they registered again, as they did not recive the 
welcomeletter, if they had spamfilter set to delete spam.

Has also noticed that if mail-delivery-error (host unknown, no account etc) and 
the ringlink mail is returned as attachment; Outlook Express removs access to 
the attachment (= mail sent from ringlink) as not safe.  (You can retrieve the 
attachment by clicking on Forward Message.)  I have scaned (Panda anivirus 
program, updated today) the fils. They are clean.  But OE thinks they are 
unsafe.

Can it be someting in the mail-header, that makes Hotmail think it is spam and 
OE that it is unsafe?

I notice that in the mail-header Return-Path, From and Sender is not the same:
From: ringmaster@xxxx
Sender: adminemail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Return-Path: my_accont_name@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (not my domain)
This puts all mail-delivery-error in my catch_all_mailbox.

I'm convinced that none of:
my@xxxxxxx (one of Swedens top-hosts according to computer magazines) = 
'Return-Path' in the header,
my_own@xxxxxx = 'Sender' in the header - or
my@xxxxxxxxxxx  = 'From' in the header
is blacklisted by Hotmail! And certainly not programmed as unsafe in OE.

//Ulf




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gunnar Hjalmarsson" <gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:52 PM
Subject: [RLopen] Hotmail spamfilter


iRing-RLopen wrote:
It seems that mail sent from Ringlink(the program) is considered
SPAM by Hotmail if the spamfilter is active for that mailbox.

What?? It makes sense to me that you may encounter such problems if
you register a blacklisted address as e.g. the ringmaster address, but
otherwise...?

Can you provide any further details, Ulf?

/ Gunnar


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